Early region top 10 predictions

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Brickman2020
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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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VikingNation wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 1:00 pm
nwifbfan wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:51 pm
9. Andrean- Loaded with talent but can they find a QB? If they can put the pieces together around the talent that is there this team could be fun to watch. A key transfer has left the niners this off-season. Will that have an effect on this team?

They actually lost two players/starters.

Bolz left for Florida, very overhyped player. Was better as a freshman. Still a loss on defense for Niners.

Slot receiver transferred to CP. Forget his name that tells you something. Quick very small sure handed receiver. A loss but not a huge one. They’ll find another receiver, they always do.

Agree on QB and I will add RB as the key unknown pieces. Oline should be a lot better anchored by Novak.
I was unimpressed with Bolz when we played them last year so I actually think that may be an upgrade. If you can't name the wideout then he definetly isnt a loss at all.

QB will be Brady Elish whose sisters both played D1 softball and he is a good athlete from what I hear. They played a ton of freshmen and sophmores against us so I still think Andrean at best with the schedule is 6-3 but even at 5-5, they will make a run come sectional time.

Andrean plays in our conference and I have no idea who this JJ Bolz kid is so not sure it's a loss. Unproven QB and RB are going to cost them games and of course they are going to lose to Lowell like they always do. I think Andrean goes 4-5 (at best) and then makes a run in an extremely weak 2A. It's not fair to have 3 D1 players, one who they recruited from another state to come in, and play in that low of a division.

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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Andrean plays in our conference and I have no idea who this JJ Bolz kid is so not sure it's a loss. Unproven QB and RB are going to cost them games and of course they are going to lose to Lowell like they always do. I think Andrean goes 4-5 (at best) and then makes a run in an extremely weak 2A. It's not fair to have 3 D1 players, one who they recruited from another state to come in, and play in that low of a division.
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Well a lot to unpack here.

Agree on QB and RB situation.

Record could be close to your prediction with the schedule they have. I see them at 6-3 or 5-4. 3 losses to Merrillville, Valpo and Chatard. Most teams in area would lose to those 3 schools. They will either run the table in NCC or have a one slip up. I don’t see them losing to Lowell hopefully weather is better than last 3 years. They’ll beat Munster, Highland and Hobart. I think KV and HC will be tough games.

I’m aware of 2 D1 players; Novak (Valpo) and Finley (Portage). I was not aware of Holmes. He seems undersized to be D1 imo. Good player though. He’s been at Andrean for all 4 years and I don’t know where he is from so I’m assuming that is who you are referring to of being out of state. If he is from Illinois, he would have entered Fall of 2021 possibly Covid related as Illinois had major restrictions.

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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Brickman2020 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 12:20 pm
VikingNation wrote:
Tue May 14, 2024 1:00 pm
nwifbfan wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 4:51 pm
9. Andrean- Loaded with talent but can they find a QB? If they can put the pieces together around the talent that is there this team could be fun to watch. A key transfer has left the niners this off-season. Will that have an effect on this team?

They actually lost two players/starters.

Bolz left for Florida, very overhyped player. Was better as a freshman. Still a loss on defense for Niners.

Slot receiver transferred to CP. Forget his name that tells you something. Quick very small sure handed receiver. A loss but not a huge one. They’ll find another receiver, they always do.

Agree on QB and I will add RB as the key unknown pieces. Oline should be a lot better anchored by Novak.
I was unimpressed with Bolz when we played them last year so I actually think that may be an upgrade. If you can't name the wideout then he definetly isnt a loss at all.

QB will be Brady Elish whose sisters both played D1 softball and he is a good athlete from what I hear. They played a ton of freshmen and sophmores against us so I still think Andrean at best with the schedule is 6-3 but even at 5-5, they will make a run come sectional time.

Andrean plays in our conference and I have no idea who this JJ Bolz kid is so not sure it's a loss. Unproven QB and RB are going to cost them games and of course they are going to lose to Lowell like they always do. I think Andrean goes 4-5 (at best) and then makes a run in an extremely weak 2A. It's not fair to have 3 D1 players, one who they recruited from another state to come in, and play in that low of a division.
Absolutely HATE the statement/ claim of yours (and many others) that I bolded and italicized above. The old, "it's not fair because they recruit" argument to complain about Privates/ Parochial schools is garbage in this day and age where EVERYONE (including your beloved Brickies) does it as evidenced by the recent string of transfers (and the amount of movement statewide & locally). I'll bet if you drive around Hobart, block by block, you're gonna have a TOUGH time locating the Gibson, Caldwell, and Sorenson households... And look, I am NOT faulting Hobart for making those transfers happen (even if they didn't "go get them," they got 'em enrolled). I am, in fact, praising Hobart, and any other public school for that matter that finds a way to allow kids into their buildings and communities that SOME PUBLIC SCHOOLS are not doing/ allowing.

2A North also isn't that weak. Andrean (should they win their sectional) will have a REALLY tough time with a traditionally very good PUBLIC power, Western Boone (WeBo) in the Regional round. Not to mention former 1A now 2A PUBLIC power that could be a semi-state opponent for 59ers in South Adams.

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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nwifbfan wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 1:11 pm
Andrean plays in our conference and I have no idea who this JJ Bolz kid is so not sure it's a loss. Unproven QB and RB are going to cost them games and of course they are going to lose to Lowell like they always do. I think Andrean goes 4-5 (at best) and then makes a run in an extremely weak 2A. It's not fair to have 3 D1 players, one who they recruited from another state to come in, and play in that low of a division.
Well a lot to unpack here.

Agree on QB and RB situation.

Record could be close to your prediction with the schedule they have. I see them at 6-3 or 5-4. 3 losses to Merrillville, Valpo and Chatard. Most teams in area would lose to those 3 schools. They will either run the table in NCC or have a one slip up. I don’t see them losing to Lowell hopefully weather is better than last 3 years. They’ll beat Munster, Highland and Hobart. I think KV and HC will be tough games.

I’m aware of 2 D1 players; Novak (Valpo) and Finley (Portage). I was not aware of Holmes. He seems undersized to be D1 imo. Good player though. He’s been at Andrean for all 4 years and I don’t know where he is from so I’m assuming that is who you are referring to of being out of state. If he is from Illinois, he would have entered Fall of 2021 possibly Covid related as Illinois had major restrictions.
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Holmes has 2 D1 offers and played his freshmen year at Marsit in Illinois and he magically decided to come across the border for school. He is a great kid and athlete and I wish him nothing but the best this season and in his football career.

For the other post, talking about South Adams and Western Boone, they are great teams but it's about the Jimmys and Joes not the Xs and Os when it comes to high school play offs. Bowen carried that team to 2 state titles so I am not going to be surprised if it happens again.

I agree that every high school coach should recruit his own district so their players do not want to leave. Valpo and now Crown point have done great jobs of internally recruiting and creating strong programs that their kids do not want to go to Andrean or other catholic schools

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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Brickman- I stand corrected on Holmes. I admit I don’t know much about his background. Good player not D1 though.

Secondly, if you think CP is not recruiting outside their district you are blind my friend. How many from other NWI schools? How many from Illinois? Valpo I would agree pretty much stays within district but Buzea brought his recruiting skills from HF to CP.

Thirdly, I agree with Jimbo again. Transfer Portal is alive and well for all schools both Public and Private. Private argument has lost its credibility with open enrollment ie Hammond schools and TP in high school. Next it will be NIL at the high school level.

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Yup, it sure is about the Jimmie's and Joe's. I imagine that WeBo and South Adams have more Jimmie's and Joe's across the board than Andrean does. A division 1 O-lineman and two division 1 DB/WR's is NOT a recipe to run through the 2A competition to a state title. Bowen ran it 20+ times a game AND was the best player on their defense AND will probably start at NOTRE DAME this season. Comparing Bowen carrying them to two title games with these 3 fellas (who are all fine/ good players) is like comparing a baby kitten to a full grown Tiger, or an apple to a ribeye.

And yes, Valpo and Crown Point have done a fine job recruiting their buildings/ communities but lets not act like there aren't MULTIPLE posts on this forum (and I think this specific thread) that reference the transfers Crown Point has welcomed through their doors this offseason. Can't say the same for Valpo but even the mightiest of the mighty and the best "community recruiters" are SOMEHOW getting guys outside of their districts/ communities too. Times have changed, and the privates/ parochial's are NOT the ONLY ones taking advantage.

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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nwifbfan wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 3:08 pm
Thirdly, I agree with Jimbo again.
We're having fun. Lol

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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Jimbo23 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 3:10 pm
Yup, it sure is about the Jimmie's and Joe's. I imagine that WeBo and South Adams have more Jimmie's and Joe's across the board than Andrean does. A division 1 O-lineman and two division 1 DB/WR's is NOT a recipe to run through the 2A competition to a state title. Bowen ran it 20+ times a game AND was the best player on their defense AND will probably start at NOTRE DAME this season. Comparing Bowen carrying them to two title games with these 3 fellas (who are all fine/ good players) is like comparing a baby kitten to a full grown Tiger, or an apple to a ribeye.

And yes, Valpo and Crown Point have done a fine job recruiting their buildings/ communities but lets not act like there aren't MULTIPLE posts on this forum (and I think this specific thread) that reference the transfers Crown Point has welcomed through their doors this offseason. Can't say the same for Valpo but even the mightiest of the mighty and the best "community recruiters" are SOMEHOW getting guys outside of their districts/ communities too. Times have changed, and the privates/ parochial's are NOT the ONLY ones taking advantage.
I wish we were bringing in guys like Crown Point though Lol

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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VikingNation wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 3:18 pm
Jimbo23 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 3:10 pm
Yup, it sure is about the Jimmie's and Joe's. I imagine that WeBo and South Adams have more Jimmie's and Joe's across the board than Andrean does. A division 1 O-lineman and two division 1 DB/WR's is NOT a recipe to run through the 2A competition to a state title. Bowen ran it 20+ times a game AND was the best player on their defense AND will probably start at NOTRE DAME this season. Comparing Bowen carrying them to two title games with these 3 fellas (who are all fine/ good players) is like comparing a baby kitten to a full grown Tiger, or an apple to a ribeye.

And yes, Valpo and Crown Point have done a fine job recruiting their buildings/ communities but lets not act like there aren't MULTIPLE posts on this forum (and I think this specific thread) that reference the transfers Crown Point has welcomed through their doors this offseason. Can't say the same for Valpo but even the mightiest of the mighty and the best "community recruiters" are SOMEHOW getting guys outside of their districts/ communities too. Times have changed, and the privates/ parochial's are NOT the ONLY ones taking advantage.
I wish we were bringing in guys like Crown Point though Lol
I'd imagine a fair amount of the Valpo Football faithful would agree with you. I know I would like that for the place I spend my Friday Nights. :lol:

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Re: Early region top 10 predictions

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Jimbo23 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 3:10 pm
Yup, it sure is about the Jimmie's and Joe's. I imagine that WeBo and South Adams have more Jimmie's and Joe's across the board than Andrean does. A division 1 O-lineman and two division 1 DB/WR's is NOT a recipe to run through the 2A competition to a state title. Bowen ran it 20+ times a game AND was the best player on their defense AND will probably start at NOTRE DAME this season. Comparing Bowen carrying them to two title games with these 3 fellas (who are all fine/ good players) is like comparing a baby kitten to a full grown Tiger, or an apple to a ribeye.

And yes, Valpo and Crown Point have done a fine job recruiting their buildings/ communities but lets not act like there aren't MULTIPLE posts on this forum (and I think this specific thread) that reference the transfers Crown Point has welcomed through their doors this offseason. Can't say the same for Valpo but even the mightiest of the mighty and the best "community recruiters" are SOMEHOW getting guys outside of their districts/ communities too. Times have changed, and the privates/ parochial's are NOT the ONLY ones taking advantage.
Yes those other teams have good players but there is a major difference in having 3 kids that could play at a big ten school vs guys who will be pledging frats in the fall. Makes the games a whole lot easier and yes upsets happen one of the years we love high school football but there is a reason a catholic school has won state in 2A 3 straight years

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